hamas attack on israel is not new. here we are, being reminded once more, be careful what you wish for. we want a democracy. we seem to be getting is long -- islamization. a movement that is not friendly towards the west, let alone to israel. so, what do we do until the good guys really become good guys? islamists become good, liberal democrats? it is a really harsh question i am asking. did we do better with the mubarak's for about 30 or 40 years? >> such me just respond very quickly. there were some of us back in 2000, 2001, 2002, who tried to assert an hour for an age to -- in our foreign aid to egypt for human rights, for other reforms that we felt were very necessary. because, obviously, the nature of the mubarak government. i am not saying that we should shun every government because they're not democratic. but what we should do, through as much persuasive powers as we have, including foreign aid, is to move them in the direction that we seek them to go. i would also at that there was nothing in the world that an